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The Rest of the Story

Documenting civilian Loyalists’ influence on Caicos Islands history.

By Dr. Charlene Kozy

The influx of Loyalists to the Bahamas shaped the political and cultural behavior not only of the Bahamas but of Turks & Caicos Islands. Why did they come, who were they, and what contributions did they make?
In a previous article (Fall 2010 Times of the Islands), the members of the military that supported the King of England were discussed. They were more visible and their names and activities more easily documented. This article will deal primarily with civilians who stayed loyal to the King. Many times they were personally abused and their property taken without compensation.

Loyalist Wade Stubb’s plantation on North Caicos, Wade’s Green, is one of the best preserved in the Turks & Caicos.


The history of the Bahamas and the Turks & Caicos Islands has been a struggle of powerful European nations wanting control. The Spanish initially did so by the Columbus landfall and Ponce de Leon stopped on the Caicos Islands in 1512. Two charters were made in 1663 and 1665 by Charles II of England giving land in Colonial America (named Carolina in his honor) to eight proprietors and added “authority over the Bahamas.” This authority was legalized with the Treaty of Madrid (1670) between England and Spain in which England gained control of “all lands, islands, colonies and places situated in the West Indies.” This proved beneficial to the Loyalists from North America over 100 years later.
On November 29, 1782, commissioners from America and Britain met for a final agreement to end the Revolutionary War. The American commissioners agreed to no further confiscation of property or prosecution of Loyalists and that Congress would recommend to the several states that amnesty and restitution of their property be given. The new Confederation government refused to enforce the recommendation. Thus, the exiled Loyalists were without home or fortune.
In September 1783, a royal proclamation stated intentions of the government to purchase the lands in the Bahamas from the proprietors and gave instructions to Lieutenant Governor John Powell on how to issue these lands.
The migration of the Loyalists began in July 1782 from Savannah, Georgia and continued from East Florida until 1785 when Spain was given possession of East Florida. However, the British Government negotiated for a nearly three-year delay in the final evacuation of East Florida. This provided a temporary asylum for the exiled Loyalists. It is estimated that the population in the Bahamas increased by 6,000 to 7,000 of both races from June 1783 to April 1785.

Influencing the Bahamas
Changes in the Bahamas undoubtedly would have come about, but with the arrival of Loyalists, their past leadership positions and their resources, changes came quickly. Historian Wallace Brown translates the approximate figures for actual payment to them as between fifteen and twenty million dollars.
They quickly organized the Board of American Loyalists with the stated purpose to “preserve and maintain those Rights and Liberties for which they had left their homes and possessions . . .” The Loyalists were waiting in Nassau for dispositions of their claims and in a short time reforms were visible. Their first effort of change was political. Their voice was William Wylly’s saying, “It is reasonable that the Loyalists be admitted to a share in the Legislature . . . and a new election take place.” A result was that by a lengthy Act of 1799, Turks Island and Caicos Islands were granted seats in the Assembly at Nassau, and a port of entry was established on the Caicos for planters to sell and ship cotton and import needed supplies.
Wylly, a lawyer and captain in the King’s Rangers from Georgia, made his presence known not as a ruffian soldier, but as a man with definite views on government, charging that a sole judge “ . . . decides without a jury, upon all matters, not only of law, but of fact.” His strong stand against slavery led to his arrest and temporary imprisonment. Colonel Thomas Brown of the King’s Rangers also turned political and defeated Alexander Murray, Governor Dunmore’s son, in a special election to fill a vacancy in the town of Nassau.
Economic prosperity neutralized political friction. New streets were built and provisions made to keep them repaired; docks were improved; a new jail was built; a roofed market place was built; a police force was created; private schools were established and a fire engine was brought from East Florida with a requirement that residents keep buckets of water in their home to use in a brigade if a fire broke out.
Perhaps the most important single contribution to the cultural life of the Bahamas was the Bahama Gazette, the first newspaper to be published in the Bahamas. The editor, John Wells, moved the family printing press from Charleston to St. Augustine to Nassau. (Thelma Peters).
Names of Caicos settlers can be found in the reform movement, such as John M. Tattnall, John Forbes, Thomas Brown, William Wylly and others. Their efforts laid a foundation for future governance. The earliest claim found giving land on the Caicos was February 1789, and the latest date for a grant was December 1791. (Bahama Registry).

Building a community
With land now in their possession and available resources, the Loyalists began to build a community on the Caicos Islands. Legal services such as performing marriages and writing wills were made available by Justices of Peace appointed in 1791. William Gamble, John Ferguson, John Lorimer, John Bell and Wade Stubbs were the men named. This is the only record of local authority found on the Caicos. Sidearms were found in most of the estate appraisals. Apparently common respect did not require formal law.

St. Thomas's Anglican church in Grand Turk was attended by many Loyalists.

King’s Road or Royal Road connecting the Islands was built and can be found today. Landings were constructed and trade conducted with other islands and nations. A common effort of the planters’ resources most likely made these improvements possible. St. Thomas’s Church on Grand Turk was built in the early 1800s and supported by many Loyalists. Records of weddings and tombs of Loyalists can be found.
When counting the population on the Caicos following the influx of Loyalists, approximately two-thirds were non-military. They were professionals and many were wealthy. It is difficult to determine how long they individually resided on the Caicos, why they left or if they died there. The few records indicate that children were born and usually sent to England for an education. Plantations were on the decline after a few decades and the children found homes and opportunities elsewhere. Thus, the heirs in many cases did not claim the land for their homes. There is always an exception and one outstanding example is Wade Stubbs. His family productivity and industry survived until 1957 at the death of Emilie Stubbs Kursteiner.

Documenting Loyalist civilians
Fifty-seven land grants were found in the Bahama Registry made to non-military personnel. Biographical information on only thirteen of these has been found. It is doubtful if many of them attempted to settle on the Caicos Islands. Their grants were small and some records of sale to larger grantees have been found. An accurate census of the names and number living on the Caicos during the Plantation Era is impossible.
This article will name the civilians with biographical information found. Their background in America and their achievements and contributions to the future nation they helped build will be included. Other names of Loyalists who were active but have no record of a land grant will be noted.

WADE STUBBS’S two plantations, Wade’s Green and Cheshire Hall, are the best preserved and most visited on the Caicos Islands. He had no children, but his brothers and their descendants, through his generosity, continued his success of making the Caicos their home for over 150 years. He listed his losses in East Florida as 1,450 acres of land plus 15 head of stock and four riding horses. Stubbs was a native of England and had immigrated to East Florida.
He was said to be a man of wealth and lived in style on the Caicos, having horses and carriages, servants and numerous slaves. He received 960 acres of land through grants but added acreage to reach the 3,000 mentioned in his will. One record in the Bahama Registry was made in 1809 between John Forbes and Wade Stubbs. It described location as “land on Bottle Creek known by the name Clifton, 200 acres occupied by Charles Fox Taylor in his lifetime . . . and other land in name of Jonah Moore, James Lane, Prince Coleman, John Weir. All for six hundred fifty three pounds, two shillings and ten pence.” Other purchases, not found, were obviously made.
A will is a valuable document to establish relationships and property owned. In Wade Stubbs’s will and codicil of 1821 he leaves to the “children of Thomas Stubbs, Henshall Stubbs, and William Stubbs, all my first cousins born in the parish of Gawsworth and county of Chester,” one hundred pounds of sterling each. One special nephew, Wade Stubbs, son of Thomas, received the Tracts of Land comprising the Wade Green Estate, about three thousand acres. He included his slaves and general stock. One provision was made: “ . . . that said Wade Stubbs leaves England and will settle at the Caicos, and carry on the said plantation and not sell the same during his natural life.” He “bequeathed to Thomas Henshall, my nephew, all my several Tracts of Lands, comprising my Cheshire Hall Estate . . . being on the Blue or Providence Caicos . . . and the tracts I purchased from my brother Thomas Stubbs . . .”
Others remembered were his sister Susannah Stubbs, John James Hall and Sarah Armstrong (widow of Thomas Armstrong, another planter on the Caicos). “To the mulatto Boy John, a son of Betsy’s, I give his freedom and also I give and bequeath to the said John, a Negro Boy named Cooly.” A speculation would be that John was Wade’s son. His nephew Andrew McClure and his three sisters, Martha Bland, Esther Henshall and Hannah Henshall were mentioned.
Wade’s homeland, England, was not forgotten. Five hundred pounds sterling to the Trustees of the Poor School of North Rode in the County of Chester was given and to the Acting Clergyman and Church Wardens of the Parish Church of Gawsworth, “ . . . five hundred pounds sterling to be applied for the good benefit in the Educating of Poor Children born in the said parish.” Undoubtedly, the value of Wade Stubbs’s estate would translate into millions of dollars. He signed his will with his mark, X.
Mrs. Ely Chambers writes that ”Wade married Annis Piles, widow of James Smith, of Georgia and Florida. There are no known children of this marriage. James and Annis had a daughter, Sarah, who died, 1797, age 24 on route from Turks Island to Grand Caicos and is buried at Wade’s Green. She was the mother of a baby girl, Sarah Catherine, born in January, 1797. Sarah Catherine lived with her uncle Robert Smith. Robert Smith is buried with Wade Stubbs at St. Thomas Church Yard, Grand Turk.” A letter from Sarah Catherine’s father, John Hamilton Hall, speaks of her step-grandfather, the Hon. Wade Stubbs.
Tecia Ana Hall (1793–1815), daughter of Sarah Smith and James Hamilton Hall, was killed by lightning in October 1815 on Grand Caicos and was buried in her grandmother’s (Annis P.S. Stubbs) garden, Wade’s Green, Grand Caicos. Wade remembered John Hall, her brother and his step-grandson, in his will.
In the ninth generation, HORATIO STUBBS, the only child of Henshall who remained in the Islands, was different from his father. He was a scholar and left a substantial library at his death, in which there are books in Greek, Latin, Hebrew, French and German, as well as in English. For some years he kept a school at Grand Turk. It is said that he quarreled with his father over slavery.
RICHARD STUBBS, Horatio’s brother, was educated in the United States and became a doctor of medicine. He married Frances Lindsey in 1838 and was drowned at sea near Grand Turk, August 10, 1849.
The tenth generation began with ALFRED STUBBS, born July 22, 1847 on Grand Turk. He married Mary Priscilla Durham in 1875 at St. Thomas’s Church. There were five children of this marriage.
ALFRED STUBBS JR. was born July 22, 1876 and died March 11, 1948. He did not marry. Alfred is listed as a salt manufacturer and owner of a store of dry goods, provisions, boots and shoes. The Hon. Alfred Stubbs was listed among 16 justices for the parishes of St. Thomas, St. John and St. George. He was appointed Asst. Commissioner of Health at South Caicos with J. W. Tatum, Esq. He was the most successful financially of the family. It was said, “He could make money but could not keep it. His real interest in life was building and his hand is to be seen everywhere today in Cockburn Harbor. He was keenly interested in the scientific production of salt. He exhibited at the World’s Fair in Chicago in 1886 and won first prize.”
LEWIS ST. GEORGE STUBBS was born June 14, 1878. Lewis married Mary Wilcox of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada and lived there.

Loyalist Emilie Jane Stubbs completed and operated the Victoria Salina in South Caicos.

EMILIE JANE STUBBS was born June 9, 1880 at Turks Island. She died November 6, 1956. Emilie was educated in England and trained as a nurse in London and New York. She returned home from New York when her father became ill. She carried on her father’s business after his death. She completed the Victoria Salina and operated it until the salt industry was bought by Turks Islands Salt Company. She was the last surviving member of the family in the Turks & Caicos Islands. Mr. Lloyd Roberts remembered climbing in the fruit trees in her garden and taking sapodillas. After her father’s death, she married Curtiss Woodruff Kursteiner of Milwaukee, Wisconsin in February 1922. Curtiss died August 10, 1923 at Turks Island. (Mrs. Chambers)
LILLIAN MARY STUBBS was born 1884 and died at age six months. Named for her deceased older sister, LILLIAN MARY STUBBS was born 1888, married Fred Holland Dewey of New York and was living in 1954.
EMILE STUBBS KURSTEINER lived and died at Cockburn Harbor, South Caicos, yet her property spanned several of the islands. She chose to leave all her property to her brother, Lewis St. George, his son Roy St. George and his heirs “and assigns forever.” It included all her property at Cockburn Harbor, i.e., dwelling house, furnishings and real estate known as the Hill; all moveable assets from the Kursteiner Stubbs Salt Company; on Grand Turk, the Stone House (Stubbs Building) and lot, the Store Building South of Stubbs Building; on Middle Caicos, she named the Haulover Plantation, Wild Cow Hill Tract, comprising more or less 8,000 acres of land; also, all other lots and land, the Old Homestead Lot, on Grand Turk, originally owned by her great-grandfather, Henshall Stubbs and all land owned by her father, Alfred Stubbs, at Cockburn Harbor.
The will illustrates the large accumulation of Stubbs property and how it was used. Haulover Fields was cultivated not many years ago. Older residents remember cotton being grown there. The salt industry was operated by Mrs. Kursteiner until the Turks Island Salt Company bought the industry.

The Stubbs family was the first owner of Todd’s, Grand Turk’s oldest variety store. It is still standing today.

The buildings described on Grand Turk were retail businesses serving a need for the town. A plaque is on Grand Turk today that recognizes the Stubbs family as being the first owner of Todds, the oldest variety store on the island. “The Stubbs family who were the largest landowners in the Caicos Islands and also one of the foremost salt families in the territory.”
Wade Stubbs died at Grand Turk on March 4, 1822, aged 69. Mrs. Chambers writes that it was, “through his industry that St. Thomas Church at Grand Turk was built. I understand that he was the first to be buried in the churchyard. His tomb is enclosed with that of Robert Smith (probably a brother to James Smith, Wade’s wife’s first husband).” Mrs. Chambers writes a translation of the inscription on the tomb which was written in Latin by Emilie Stubbs Kursteiner’s grandfather, Horatio Stubbs. ”Under this tomb rest until the second coming of Jesus Christ, the bones of Wade Stubbs, Esquire, a native of England.”
The Stubbs Genealogical Summary compiled does not list achievements of the earlier generations. Probably there were few, if any, records. It is in the ninth and tenth generation that the achievements were known and listed, such as a school founded and a library left by Horatio Stubbs on Grand Turk; the salt industry that created jobs; a variety store that provided supplies to the public. In reviewing the contributions, they span business, office holders, religious affiliation and intellectual endeavors. In America, financial barons such as Vanderbilt and Rockefeller had money and influence that span generations. The Stubbs family followed that pattern in the Turks & Caicos Islands, beginning with Wade Stubbs, the Loyalist planter.
THOMAS ARMSTRONG immigrated from South Carolina. He received 160 acres of land on the Caicos bounded easterly by Bottle Creek. He became a partner of John Russell, a shipbuilder in Nassau. Peters indicated that the partnership was also in the plantation on the Caicos. He may have extended his business to salt production as many of the planters did. A salt pond on Middle Caicos bears his name, “Armstrong’s Pond.”
He was active in affairs on the Caicos. His name appears as a witness on several estate appraisals: William Forbes, 24 March, 1798; William Farr, February, 1800; John M. Tattnall, 16 December, 1796; James Frazer, 1 December, 1795 and John Podmore, February, 1797.
Close ties kept by the southern Loyalists are illustrated by the wedding of Thomas’s son, John, to the daughter of Henry Yonge, a lawyer and formerly of Georgia. John became a well respected lawyer in Nassau. Wade Stubbs remembered Sarah, “widow of Thomas Armstrong” in his will and “bequeathed a Coloured Slave now in her possession named John” to her.
JOHN BELL claimed residency and property in both East and West Florida. He obviously was a man of great wealth as he did not depend on the British for transport to the Bahamas. The Bahama Gazette carried a story of him in January 5, 1789, telling of “Dr. John Bell and his troubles at sea.” It appears that one of his sloops sprung a leak and was forced to put in port at St. Eustatius “on his way to settle on an island.”
His three land grants were a total of 1,080 acres located on the east side of Middle Caicos using Windward Going Through and John M. Tattnall’s land as landmarks. He established two plantations, “Increase” and “Industry.” “Industry” was located across the cut from “Increase” on East Caicos. An estate appraisal made after his death described a highly working plantation. Bell had 300 acres of cotton “highly cultivated” and 200 acres in pasture. Ninety slaves were listed by name, age, family, and those with disabilities or disease. Thirteen houses for slaves were made of stone and “walled and plastered.” Ruins of a large, family-type dwelling can be found today along with several other out-buildings.
“Increase” plantation is identifiable today on the southeastern coast of Middle Caicos. King’s Road reaches the gate of the plantation and appears to originate in the north toward Tattnall and Lorimers plantations.
WILLIAM FARR is acknowledged as an “old resident” of Nassau in the wedding announcement of his daughter Esther (Hetty), to Thomas Brown on October 3, 1789 carried by the Bahama Gazette. Farr was granted 380 acres on Grand Caicos on March, 1789. His plantation, “Cottage,” joined the lands of Thomas Brown. An appraisal made at the time of his death, “at the Caicos,” indicates a well-developed plantation complete with slave quarters.
Farr bequeathed “one-third of his estate to his wife, one-third to his daughter, Margaret, one-third to Hetty Brown, to one son William $100, daughter Sarah Bromhall $100, and daughter Elizabeth Fleming, $100.” (Bahama Registry. Wills 1790–1806) Farr died in 1800 on the Caicos. His widow, Sarah, and Hetty’s sister, Margaret, moved to Thomas Brown’s home.
JOHN FERGUSON was a petitioner for land from East Florida in November, 1781. He claimed as his loss a lot and building in St. Augustine, Florida. Ferguson was active in politics in the Bahamas. He was elected for a seat in the Assembly for the town of Nassau in 1784 but was denied the seat in favor of an “Old Inhabitant.” His name appeared on the 1785 declaration made by the Loyalists that “ . . .\ . . . they were not bound by any laws.” His name also appears on a petition from Abaco, January 6, 1788, as a Justice of Peace.
Ruins of the Ferguson Plantation can be found today. Mrs. Constance Hall, Bambarra, Middle Caicos, said she was born there but storms damaged the property and her family moved. She walked with the author to the site in 1982.
JOHN MARTIN was a Georgia citizen and was banished from Georgia March 1, 1778; his estate of 6,032 acres was confiscated and sold June, 1782.
In the Bahamas he is listed as one of the members representing the Western District of Nassau. He was clearly conservative and, from the beginning, politically active. He was appointed Justice of Peace and served as one who examined evidence in the Slave Trials which were conducted from 1785–1796. In June 1789, Governor Dunmore appointed him one of the Assistant Justices of the General Court of the Bahamas, a position he held until his death in 1796. Martin was survived by his widow, Anna, and a son. Whether or not they continued to live on Grand Caicos is not known.
JOHN MCINTOSH was a Georgia citizen who had 2,450 acres of land that was confiscated and sold. He was banished from America. He received 880 acres of land on the Caicos. McIntosh became active in politics in Nassau and was outspoken against Governor Dunmore. He signed an affidavit testifying to a derogatory statement made by the governor.
He became a planter on the Caicos and witnessed the estate appraisal of John M. Tattnall in December 1796 and John Podmore in February 1797, both made on the Caicos. McIntosh is named as one of the three men in Charles Fox Taylor’s will as a person that would have charge of his affairs in “that part of the world.”
JOHN PETTY received 600 acres in a land grant “upon Grand Caicos” and apparently operated a plantation. He was outspoken in Bahamian politics and circulated a protest against the disputed election of 1784. The Speaker burned the protest in the doorway of the Assembly House and expelled Petty for his part. Petty continued to be outspoken and signed other petitions protesting the undemocratic practices of the Bahamian government. An example is a quote in a declaration of May 8, 1785, “ . . . not represented . . . not bound by any laws they think proper to pass.”
THOMAS RIGBY immigrated from England to East Florida. He claimed losses of a house with double grounds on Charlotte Street, St. Augustine. He identified his trade as a blacksmith and mentioned his wife and two sons in his petition. Two hundred acres were granted on Grand Caicos in 1789.
Wade Stubbs remembered the infant son of William Wade Rigby in his 1821 Will. He “bequeathed in trust for the use and benefit of his infant son, Wade Stubbs Rigby my house and spot in the town of Nassau.” A relationship is not known.
JOHN M. TATTNALL was from a prominent family in Georgia (streets by that name are in Savannah today) and received land grants on both Middle and North Caicos. He had 750 acres north by Whole Crown Creek and Windward Going Through on Middle Caicos and 300 acres near the mouth of Bottle Creek on North Caicos. Using an appraisal, in 1995 a field school from Cumberland University excavated ruins on Middle Caicos that fit the description of the house in the appraisal. Evidence would conclude that “Bonaventure,” the name given Tattnall’s plantation, is located on Middle Caicos.
No mention of family was found but in the appraisal a small child’s bedstead, a cedar crib and small chair were listed. A young family resided there. Interesting items listed include Mr. Tattnall’s fiddle and a portrait of General Wolfe.
Tattnall’s stay in Nassau was not wasted. He joined the Board of American Loyalists but felt the politics of Governor Maxwell when he was denied an appointment of “searcher of customs” by Maxwell’s intervention in London. He signed a petition which stated strong feelings about not being represented in the Assembly which allowed Maxwell to report that Tattnall was trying to overthrow the government. He did not get the appointment.
The appraisal shows every indication that he was a successful planter. He had 120 acres in cotton and 30 in pasture. He died in 1796.
CHARLES FOX TAYLOR was an Indian friend of Colonel Thomas Brown and was accepted in the social circles of East Florida. He was the son of a Captain Taylor, and grandson of Lord Holland and the queen of the Cherokees. His claim to chiefdom in the Cherokee Nation was relinquished to follow Thomas Brown in exile (Cashin). Taylor’s land grant was only 60 acres but a sale of 200 acres of Taylor’s land was found. He apparently bought land from other grantees.
Taylor died in South Carolina. He made a voyage to South Carolina, became ill and recognized that death was near. A letter is recorded in the Bahama Registry, May 27, 1799, written to Edwin Gardner by C.F. Taylor. He asked Gardner to make arrangements for him in respect to the papers he had with him, his servant, and the baggage still on board the vessel in which he had traveled. He explained that his passage was not yet paid and he was to take $50 out of the $130 in the trunks and pay that bill. He explained that his attorneys on Grand Caicos, “where I live,” John McIntosh, John Lorimer, and John G. Harrison “would have charge of his affairs in that part of the world.” He asked that his trunks be sent to these men and that the Negro boy, borrowed from his brother-in-law, Dr. Anthony George Forbes, who was a planter on the same island, be returned. An unusual request was that his friend Thomas Forbes tell his mother about his death, which brings the question of him bringing his Indian mother to the Caicos. The will was registered in South Carolina, August 27, 1800, “an oath to the will of C.F. Taylor, deceased, May 27, 1799.”
THOMAS WILLIAMSON was from East Florida. In total, Williamson received 768 acres in scattered locations. The largest grant was 288 acres on the island of Parrot Cay, home to an exclusive resort development today.

Summing it up
Thelma Peters gives an excellent summary of the Loyalist era. She writes, “When the Loyalists arrived in the Bahamas they were an energetic people, determined to dominate their new environment and to remake their fortunes. They soon altered the appearance of Nassau (and the Out Islands), reformed what they regarded as abuses in the Colonial government, tore the protecting jungles from the rocky Out Islands to create their plantations, squeezed all they could from the thin soil, fathered innumerable mulatto children, and then either moved away or surrendered inevitably and abjectly to the Conch way of life.”
Descendents of the original settlers cannot be found on the Caicos but their names abound. The surnames of many residents are the names of Loyalists. It was the custom to assume the name of plantation owners at that time and in some cases, these “Belongers” now own the land their forefathers once worked. In my association with the citizens of Grand Turk and the Caicos Islands, I have found an interest in the Loyalist Era and a pride in their present life and certainly an interest in public welfare and good government. They are professionals, businessmen and women and civil servants and most have a medium-to-high standard of living. I wish to thank my many friends for their interest and help in my quest for the history of Turks & Caicos Islands.

References
• Borrowed title: “The Rest of the Story” from Paul Harvey.
• Thelma Peters, “The American Loyalists and the Plantation Period in the Bahama Islands.”
• Charlene Kozy, “A History of the Georgia Loyalists and the Plantation Period in the Turks and Caicos Islands.”
• Stubbs Genealogical Summary: A collection of letters and documents of Mrs. Ely Chambers, 1185 Park Avenue, New York, New York (the great-great-great granddaughter of Annis Piles Smith) and compiled by Winfred Ludlow Mund, St. Barthelemy, French West Indies.
• Edward J. Cashin, The Kings Ranger.



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julius stafford baker
Mar 16, 2012 4:51

Dear Dr Kozy, I’m a descendant of early settlers in Grand Turk and Salt Cay, and wonder if anyone is
looking further into the families concerned. I am in touch with a Jones descendant and also the Harriott family of today, I’ve also found two other branches of my own Baker family in Florida. I have a photocopy of your original thesis about the Caicos settlers, and wonder if the same sort of work and text about the Grand Turk and Salt Cay settlers might be found somewhere? I do know that a start has been made with recording grave markers in Grand Turk, and wonder if anything has been done with the Salt Cay church records. I would like to thank you for your work in this field which has been most helpful with my family history work. A principal problem is the extremely scattered nature of the T & C records held here in the UK at the National Archives. They are there, but finding them …! Theres also the problem of the records held in the US, where the Loyalists have until lately been almost air-brushed from history, as a sort of embarrassment, despite their numbers. For example, their numbers are always drastically minimised, a typical trick being to take a list of heads of households, and say there were that many, ignoring wives and the usual many children. I also wonder who now has the original family farm in Northampton Mass.

Judy Lawrie
Mar 26, 2012 13:25

I am also tracking my family from Bermuda and Grand Turks. I am related to the Darrell /Frith salt rakers and I’m finding quite a bit about them. My grandmother, however was a Jones. Her father was Alpheus Lewis Jones b 1864 – d 1938 Turks and Caicos and his father also Alpheus Jones born in 1822 – d 1878 – Bermuda. I am unable to find anything further about this family. I did find an Alpheus Jones who was a Loyalist but don’t see any of his relatives going to Bermuda or Turks.

I also have some Baker’s from the UK in my tree, but I’m not sure if they are related to you

Julius – you mentioned that you were in touch with a Jones descendant. I was wondering who this was you were in touch with and would they have any further information that may help me.

gretal
Mar 31, 2012 18:58

Dr Kozy,
Thank you for your excellent writeup. I too am a descendant of the early settlers of Grand Turk trying to track my family. I was able to trace back my descendant to Durham and Boddie lines born/died on Grand Turk. I have been unable to get records from the Turk Islands or make contact with any Durhams/Stubbs from there which is where my journey stops. I am trying to find the connection with the Stubbs family as my Durham is buried in PA in same plot w/Stubb descendant you mention in your article. I found marriage on microfilm confirming a Turks wedding, birth, death, but have been unable to obtain any records from Turks. The Boddie member originally came from France to the Turks. If anyone has furher information on these lines or connection please contact me. Please don’t let this important history disappear. Let the authorities know how important it is to get these records archived and make available before this important history disappears. Help Keep our Roots alive and growing.

dennis r murphy
Apr 6, 2012 15:04

Dr. Kozy,
Love reading the articles in Times of the Islands. My great, great grandfather was Jeremiah D.Murphy. My grandfather, Denis told stories about Grand Turk all the time when he was alive. He left the island around 1930. My father and aunt were born there and later went to New York and lived with my great grandmother
Spencer. (also from GT) With the passing of my grandfather, aunt and father i received artifacts and info on my family and Grand Turk. Some of the info i was able to share with Dr. Hitch when I was there 2008. I am very interested in finding out as much as possible about my family and the islands’ history. I would appreciate any info anyone may have and would be more then happy to share any i have. For example my grand father wrote a book about some of his experiences on GT and also a paper with info on the families living on GT during his time there.

Basil Cumberbatch
May 1, 2012 19:19

Dr. Kozy, I to have read with great interest your work and like others I am interested in Grand Turk in particular. My great grand dad was Ethelbert Richard Spencer and Great Grand Mother was Ophelia hamilitoSpencer Hamilton Spencer. My Grandad was John Ney Spencer. Any information on these individuals would be appreciated.

Judy Corday
May 1, 2012 20:01

greetings from Bermuda
I’m a descendant of Ethelbert Richard SPENCER who married Ophelia Hamilton ADAMS.
They married and died in Grand Turk, having a large family, one of whom was William Arnold SPENCER
my Grandfather who came to Bermuda and married my Grandmother, Alice Mary WILSON.
One of your queryies is from:dennis r murphy – Apr 6, 2012 15:04
referring to his MURPHY roots.
I would love to hear from him as he is a relative of mine too via the SPENCER line.
Thanks so much.
Judy Corday in Bermuda
ADAMS/SPENCER/FRITH/CRISSON/ROWSE/MURPHY/BARNES/ANFOSSI

Judy Corday
May 1, 2012 20:35

Tis me again, Judy from Bermuda…………..
This reply is for: Judy Lawrie
Mar 26, 2012 13:25

DARRELL/FRITH/JONES LOOK-UP
HALLETT’S BOOK – 19TH CENTURY CHURCH REGISTERS OF BERMUDA
WARWICK GROOM MARRIAGES 846
Jones, Alpheus William of Warwick parish – married – Caisey, Clarinda Susan of Warwick parish – date: 1858 May 20 – Md1
WARWICK BAPTISMS 824
Jones, Alpheus James – father: Alpheus William – mother: Clarinda Susan – date of baptism: 1863 Oct 12 – Warwick parish – comment: Coloured.; Mason – Bt1
There are a number of other children born to Jone, Alpheus William and his wife Clarinda Susan (Caisey) do you
already have them all or would you like me to send them to you?
PAGET BURIALS 798
Jones, Alpheus age 55yrs of Paget parish – burial date; 1878 Apr 9 – Bl2

Judy in Bermuda

Judy Corday
May 1, 2012 21:07

I can be found at ajcorday@northrock.bm
Judy in Bermuda

dennis r murphy
Jun 11, 2012 11:05

mike gibson
Dec 6, 2012 19:11

Thank you for finding my great great great great Grandfather, that is way THE WAR DEPT had such a interest in our family. His granmother was the famous war women of the Cherokokee Nation Nancy Ward! Thank You Dr. Kozy

GSM
Jan 30, 2013 20:52

Hi I am looking for the birth records of Roderick Arthur in 1849. Father Oscar Roderick Arthur and mother Rebecca Haven

Marshall
Aug 11, 2014 22:16

I believe my line of Browns [who[m] were both loyalists and patriot colonists during the war] are related to Thomas “Burnfoot” Brown [1750-1825]. My Brown line has been traced back to my great grand father [X6] Robert Fisher Brown Sr. [1759-1840]. Robert’s parents may be James Brown [a British soldier, Carolina or King’s Rangers, SC., GA. area, and Catherine/Katherine Fischer/Fisher, b. Netherlands [Black Dutch/Melungeon] . There are Guion Miller applications from some of Robert’s descendants who claim Robert was the source of their Cherokee blood.

Anyone wishing to exchange genealogy information, contact me at alien71121@netzero.com

Marshall

James Darrell
Dec 16, 2015 23:01

To Dennis Murphy,
My name is Jim Darrell. I also lived in NY ( when younger). My grandfather, Kenneth Darrell Sr.,(1902-1982) also used to talk very fondly and extensively of his childhood on the island of Grand Turk. He married Elfleda Jones and left Grand Turk and moved to Brooklyn in 1926.In 1929 they moved to Mineola. I often heard him talk about his best friend whom also left Grand Turk and moved to NY. His name was Dennis Murphy–no doubt your grandfather. There friendship lasted a lifetime.

James Darrell
Dec 16, 2015 23:36

To Judy Lawry,
My name is is Jim Darrell. I think we are cousins. My grandmother’s name was Elfleda Jones,(one of seven sisters and one brother) from Grand Turk. Her sisters names were Rene, Bessie, Olive, Lila, Lilian and Vera, and brother, Leon. I knew them all and was very fond of them. She visited her sisters in Bermuda in the early 1970s, and I have a framed photograph. Was your grandmother my great aunt Rene? My grandmother used to tell a story about her grandfather or great grandfather whom was a Judge in Nassau Bahama. His last name was Saunders and died of poisoning, (food or something…), they don’t know. It was suspected (but never proved) that one of the people whom he sentenced (and whom threatened him with something as “I’ll get you for this) was his murderer. My grandmother also said that her father (Alpheous? Jones) had a plantation on Caicos and spent much time there. She also used to communicate with a relative that lived in Bermuda whose name was “May”. I think she may have been a niece. My great-great grandfather’s name was BC Frith. His granddaughter, “Fanny,” gave me a photograph of my grandmother and a few of her sisters when they were very young–my guess, circa, 1908. I can’t tell which sister is which except possibly, Rene, because she is the oldest. Please communicate if you wish.
Respectfully, Jim Darrell

James Darrell
Dec 16, 2015 23:38

Michael Kent
Feb 1, 2016 14:11

Mr. Murphy.

I read with great interest your comment on Jeremiah Murphy being a distant relation of yours. I am currently writing a book which features information about your relative and I would very much like to discuss and exchange with you information about Jeremiah.

Thank you.

gwendolyn franklin
Mar 12, 2016 8:02

Regarding John Bell, I have a record of an Elizabeth Amelia Bell that sold a slave, Philla to Molly Delancey the mother. The esquire was Thomas Bell. I think there is a connection here with Bell from “Increase or “Industry” Plantations and The” Greenwich Plantation”. I need some help. Any information would help.

Carlton Mills
Jan 18, 2017 20:21

Dr Kozy,

Great article. I am interested in doing some research on the TCI and Bahamas relationship.
Are you in a position to guide me as to where I can obtain information?

Thanks

Susanne Ziegler
Sep 8, 2017 19:36

Charles Fox Taylor was not married to the “Queen of the Cherokee’s” But he did have children by a Cherokee wife. I would have to check the name, Kati Kingfisher comes to mind. (Nanaehi-Nancy Ward’s daugther). It can be tied together by Starr’s history of the Cherokee, and Brainerd Mission documents. It even ties into Rich Joe Vann, who I heard vague stories as a child. I am, a several times g-g-granddaughter. The Fox-Taylor name was carried until around the 1890’s in Indian Territory, with “Fox Taylor” being judged by the hanging judge in Ft. Smith. I suspect the Fox line in England may be not correct, except for 1700’s and 1800’s. American documents. One would really have to check the English documents, if even available. Did they even speak, much less write to one another (of
bastards’), of lesser alliances? Or was their ‘rank’ so low, it didn’t matter? I hope some day, to see where the Loyalists landed. Because there is fairly well documented trace the other direction. And very interesting. The only hard part is during the trail of tears, though James “Taylor” married to Sallie, seems to be my direct descendants. Going Snake, and other territories are hard to trace because of the War between the States (Civil War). Hmmmmm

Adrienne Smith
Dec 26, 2017 23:57

Hello
I believe I may be a descendant of Robert Smith. Is there any more information about his descendants?

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